Tams' Charles Pope, Wayne Loqiudice and Kommotion and Ray Whitley in the Hey Baby Days of Beach Music

Charles Pope gets his ticket to “The Party To End All Parties” in The Heeey Baby Days joining Wayne Loqiudice and Ray Whitley at the gala. (See foot note regarding The Party To End All Parties)

According to my Inbox, Diane Cottle-Pope’s call came in at 4:53 this morning. I knew even before I listened to the message that it had to do with Charles “Speedy” Pope younger brother of Joe Pope and Otis Pope. I don’t think he had others. Charles Pope had died the previous afternoon.  It was a great loss to the ever-dwindling group of entertainers that created Beach Music. Just in the last couple of months we lost others including Wayne Loqiudice and Ray Whitley.

Wayne was lead singer for The Kommotion, an Atlanta band in the 60s that had an army of incredible musicians (see band directory at www.heybabydays.com.)  We regret we didn’t include more in the Hey Baby Days about this talented band who had a great cover of “The Little Black Egg” It took me a while to learn to spell his name but anyone that ever saw Wayne on stage remembered him.  Back in the day when it came to stage demeanor  show and dance, many say he could hold his own with Joe Tex and James Brown and is sometimes compared with Wayne Cochran of CC Rider fame

If one ever gets around to listing the all time great composers of what we refer to as Beach Music, the name Ray Whitley will be up near the top with Norman Johnson and others. What a family of greats came out of that old school house in Brookhaven Georgia known Master Sound. Whitley co-wrote the Tams’ hit “Be Young, Be Foolish, Be Happy” with one of the original Classics IV, J.R. Cobb.

Whitley wrote most of the Tams’ major hits including “What Kind of Fool”, “I’ve Been Hurt”, “Hey Girl, Don’t Bother Me”, “Laugh It Off”, “Too Much Fooling Around” and one of the more underrated songs of the Tams’ “Dancing Mood.” In the world of Reggae, “Dancing Mood” is almost a national anthem that many think was written by Delroy Wilson as he made it a major Reggae hit.  Little   credit is accorded its author, Ray Whitley. May he rest in peace.

  

I first met Charles Pope in 1968 when I first engaged the fabulous Tams Revue for one of the many  big four-hour shows and dances that we would have over the next couple of years. 

Charles always loved telling me back in the day that the “Tams were making me rich.” or “You’re getting rich off the Tams, ain’t you?” Fellow Tam Horace “Sonny” Key loved to tell people “we are sending Greg to college.” Easy to think such when the Tams’ were packing the various venues where we promoted the “World Famous” Tams and their 17-piece revue. No kiddin’ those really were the days! The Tams were the South’s equivalent of the Four Tops and Temptations. "According to Charles and Otis, Motown was interested in adding the group to its stable of R&B greats. 

It seems like yesterday when I sat in the Jonesboro home of Diane and Charles Pope reminiscing with Charles and Otis about the glory days. Older brother, Otis, was the road manager for the band for years. I kidded him about the near heart attacks he gave me the times when the Tams arrived just in time for a show. If you really want to see a blur... band  arrives at 7:45 for an 8:00 start and at 8:00, it's show time. It  could only happen in the Hey Baby Days.

Charles seemed more reserved when talking about the Hey Baby Days than others but when he spoke I listened intently as he offered great nuggets of info most of which is included in the book.

When people think of the Tams show, they think not just of the vocals and all the great tunes but of the high energy the Tams brought to the stage, their high stepping chorography.

According to Charles and Otis, it wasn’t always that way. “In fact at first we just stood up at the mic and sang, sort of like a doo wop group. However, when we first toured with James Brown and he saw our stage show, he said if you’re going to tour with me… you gotta dance" … so they did.

Charles said he and the group were shocked when the group arrived at a booking at a South Carolina club in the 60s only to find out it was an "all-white" club. And as they say, "The Crowd Went Wild". The Tams music had the right sound and beat for the shaggers and there in the Carolinas , the Tams' music hit its zenith.

The Beach Music world is going to miss Charles Pope. His contributions were numerous. Charles once said, ”Beach Music has been good to us.” Beach Music is a music genre some music pundits continue to insist doesn’t exist. They mostly reside in places other than the South. Beach Music has a special set of heroes that rarely get a lot of press. At the head of this class sits Charles Pope and the Mighty Tams.

God Bless Charles Pope!

Footnote: The Party To End All Parties is the ultimate Beach Music revival of greats that have passed on.  A scene of the great spectacle that took place in a small town auditorium in South Georgia is on the cover of ”The Heeey Baby Days of Beach Music.” All the greats of the genre that have passed on are visible on stage while their still living cotemporaries may be there but are blurred and unidentifiable. Only those that have passed-on get a ticket to attend while others in attendance received a special invitation.

Ninety-Six Swingin' Medallions Ninety-Six Keys To The City

NINETY-SIX REASONS WHY YOU HAVE TO LOVE THE SWINGIN’ MEDALLIONS IN The Hey Baby Days

 

1.      Most of the “youngsters” in the band have been Swingin’ Medallions  longer than the “original” members who recorded the iconic party song. However, once a Medallion, always a Medallion just ask all 96 former members of the band that reunited this past Friday night at the birth place of the Swingin’ Medallions, NINETY SIX, SOUTH CAROLINA although the county seat of Greenwood County is the official home town.

 

 

 John McElrath , Leader and Founder, Greg Haynes, unofficial band historian,  and Brent Fortson, an original saxophonist and  a legend of the UGA chapter of Phi Delta Theta

 

2.      The mayor of Ninety Six South Carolina gave keys to the city to all 96 members of the band that attended. He is apparently a man of strong faith so we looked around a found a copy of “The Heeey Baby Days” and presented him one of those…I asked if he had any spare keys but he was fresh out. He did say that the book would go on display at the visitors' center.

3.      The mayor also made mayoral proclamations honoring the band and their contributions to the city. It was apparent  that the entire population turned out for the gig and with such a gala and the good time had by all,  the mayor should have no trouble being re-elected.

4.      When I told Perrin Gleaton, the first guitarist for the band, that it’s all about the horns, I thought he might hit me. Although known for their horns, he reminded me that not one horn was raised on "Double Shot." Funny, but "Jimbo Doares said the same thing .

5.      Perrin appeared on the band's first single on Dot Records, “I Want To Be Your Guy.” He left prior to “Double Shot” and was replaced by Jimbo Doares. Fred Pugh and Perrin were successful with other Carolina bands. Both were Swingin' Friday night.  There are still folks who remember Fred from the Old Hickory in PC and his “Night Train” routine.

6.      There were some that were not present and they were sorely missed including those who are deceased: including: Steve Caldwell – saxophone, Charlie Webber-trumpet, Johnny Cox- Saxophone ; David Eastler-Drums, Gerald Polk-saxophone    Members  of their families or representatives were there to receive copies of the proclamation.

7.      Other living members of the band that were of the 60s that were not able to attend  were  Jim Doares- Guitar, Grainger “Brother” Hines- Saxophone , Ron Nobles - Drums and Bobby Taylor.   Five of the Eight that recorded “Double Shot” were on stage. Many who played with the band when it was known as The Medallions were present ( 1963-64).

8.      Dale Williams, Medallions lead vocalist in the 80s  voice sounded as good as he did back then… however… the rain came and the third set was cancelled so we did not get to hear Dale sing “I’m Going To Make You Mine” a composition that was written by another Medallion from the 80s, Hazen Bannister.

 

… and so on through 96

 

Hack had seven horns behind him on "Don't Let The Green Grass Fool You"

 

96       If you like horns, there were plenty, with as many as seven going full blast at one time... If everyone who has claimed to have played saxophone at one time or another for the band actually did and were  present Friday night, they would have not been able to fit them in the Georgia Dome.

  

Note: we have taken some license in recounting the events that took place in Ninety Six South Carolina this past Friday night. e.g We really didn’t count all the band members that were present… there may have been more than Ninety Six including members of the band that were “Medallions” before the band even added “Swingin”  to Medallions. These gentlemen appeared to very hip so we now know that adding “Swingin” in 1965 had little to so with lifestyle. I remember stories from those who saw the band in their early days especially at UGA. They never refer to the band as the “Swingin’ Medallions”, but rather as “The Medallions”. This is proof positive that there are folks from the 60s that were actually there and do remember.

 

 

 

                                     Hack Bartley and Carroll Bledsoe

 

Shawn McElrath, Unidentified Fan, John McElrath ;with her  1967 album with seven of the eight original members' signatures

 

 

 

Only one signature missing from this one

 

 

Memorabilia from an Atlanta based collector includes album cover with signatures of all eight members who recorded "Double Shot", an original 45 RPM on the "For Sale" label plus signed Tams' album with signatures of Joe Pope, Charles Pope, Robert Smith, Horace "Sonny" Key and Joe Jones

 

 

 

Album cover with ALL eight signatures

                                 

                          Greg Haynes, Joe Morris, and Brent Fortson

 

Original Drummer Joe Morris

Mayor Hands out proclamations and keys to the city L-R Jimmy Perkins, Joe Morris, John McElrath, Carroll Bledsoe, Perrin Gleaton, Brent Fortson, Cubby Culbertson, Mayor of Ninety Six, Dale Williams, Robby Cox, Fred Pugh behind mayor... others out of view

Fred Pugh explains to fan about how he was able to wow the fans back at the Old Hickory in 1964 with "Night Train" while Carroll Bledsoe looks on... perhaps thinking that Fred's memory is a little fuzzy.

 

Mayor of Ninety Six makes presentation to John McElrath

 

 

 

Brent Fortson Signs two copies of "The Heeey Baby Days of Beach Music." With his and Joe Morris's signature, we now have two books with autographs of all the members of the band and several hundred other signatures of members of bands from the 60s.

 

 

 

Jimmy Perkins, Greg Haynes, Fred Pugh and Hack Bartley

 

 

WHAT A GREAT TIME IN NINETY-SIX SOUTH CAROLINA

Peanut Man ,Willie Williams and Tones Persians

From: Steven Kahn
Subject: Willie Williams and Tones
To: greg@heybabydays.com
Date: Monday, March 11, 2013, 7:24 AM

Hi, I noticed the forum posting about Willie Williams and the Tones / Persians ... Didn't this group record "A Star"/"Peanut Man" on Kennedy Records.... I'd love to find out more about this group... do you know the year it was recorded and who the members on the record were and where Kennedy Records was based? I'd love to see a label scan of the 45.. thanks so much

Steve

 

Steve,

I am not sure but I am going to copy Tommie James who I think was a member of the Persians. If not, he may able to give some guidance. I think that Willis Blume at the Willis Blume Agency was also a member.Of course, there were several groups of Persians as there were Villagers, etc.

Thanks

Greg

Hi Greg & Steve,

The Persians from Columbia, SC did indeed evolve from a group started by Willie Williams around 1965 when he and some fellow classmates in a choral group at Benedict College in Columbia, SC began performing in small clubs and other venues under the name "Willie & The Tones".

As the group added instrumentalists, the name was changed to "The Persians" around 1966-67. Wille said they were learning about ancient "Persia" in a world history class, and that's where the name came from. I believe Willis Blume was the drummer for a short time, and Fred Ferguson was one of the original vocalists.

"P-Nut" man was probably recorded in 1966, but I don't know who was on the recording besides Wille, and don't know anything about "Kennedy Records".

Willie was no longer in the group when I joined as their first keyboardist in mid-1967 and the vocalists were Fred Ferguson & Elvin Tobin, guitarist was Charles Stafford, on bass was Bill Miles, and drummer was Tom Graham.

Charles left in 1968 to tour with Billy Stewart, Tom Graham got drafted in 1969 and was sent to Vietnam, Elvin Tobin moved to Atlanta, and I left at the end of 1970 to help form the new band "Second Nature". Charles and Tom were also original members of Second Nature.

Fred & Bill kept The Persians going into the mid 1990's. There was a Persians reunion several years ago, and all the former members (that could be found) were invited, including Willie. Attached is a picture that Willie put together for that event, and these images were put onto some souvenir T-shirts. The picture on the right shows The Persians in 1968 when the members were Fred, Elvin, Charles, Bill, Tom, and me. At the reunion, that combination posed for a recreation of this photo, and a group photo was taken of all the former members who were there.

Leading up to the reunion, we had several rehearsals. Many former members attended & performed in chronological order of when they were in the group beginning with Wille who still sounded great, as did the other vocalists and all who backed them on instruments.

A great time was had by all the performers as well as a packed house on a Sun. afternoon at a club in downtown Columbia.

I have copied Bill Miles on this, and he may still have Willie's current contact info. He and/or Willie may be the only ones I know who can answer your questions about the creation of the "P-Nut Man" recording.

Musically, TJ

Tommie James

Second Nature

Camden, SC

More about The Persians from Bill Miles

We were playing at the KOR club in five points around 1964 and one night Jack Maynard and I were talking about R&B music and decided to find some black singers to make it sound right.

The plan was to go to the talent show at Benedict college and give a listen. I had to go to a meeting that night and when I got there it was almost over but Maynard had heard the Tones and we got together with them and played our first gig at the Wits Inn on Devine. That was in 1965.

 

We only played a few jobs and the group fell apart. The Tones had already recorded that record.

 

in 1966 I was playing with a group at a club on Sumter street. And the vocals were not cutting it so we got in touch with Willie and they came to the rescue and Charles Stafford was with them.

 

I joined Stafford and we brought in Willis Blume and we went to work at the KOR club in five points. At that time The Tones had changed their name to the Persians.

 

Later we replaced Willis with Frank Macaulay then Tommy Graham. Over the years we had the pleasure of working with a lot of musicians and I still keep in touch with some of them.

 

Willie is one of them. His phone number is 803.463.1901.

 

Bill Miles

The First Concert at Sanford Stadium in 1963 featured Beach Music legends

The bands that are featured in “The Heeey Baby Days of Beach Music” are ones that rocked with soul.  Generally these were not four or five piece bands that were the norm of the 60s but rather they were aggregations totaling seven or more musicians with horns. These bands were sought out as backing bands when the great R&B artists performed because much of the great soul music was enhanced by the sound of horns. Athens’ great horn band of the era was the Jesters who backed such artists as Marvin Gaye, Jackie Wilson and others. 

So when UGA put on its monster R&B Homecoming show in Sanford Stadium in October of 1963, The Divots of Roanoke, Virginia provided the sound. The vocals were provided by the who’s who of R&B music of that era. Much of the music played at that concert was what we now refer to as “Beach Music.” You might say that the first concert in Sanford Stadium was a Beach Music concert and get no argument from this vantage point. This would only be fitting for ground once trod upon by such greats as Trippi, Sinkwich, Walker, Tarkington and others.

The who’s who of R&B performed for that homecoming concert and it would be regrettable if the existence of the event were lost to obscurity. Do names like Jerry Butler, Major Lance, Mary Wells, Irma Thomas, King Curtis, Gene Chandler, Don Covay & The Goodtimers, and Darlene Love. Don Gardner/ Dee Dee Ford ring any bells out there?

During the research period for “the Heeey Baby Days of Beach Music’ we kept hearing the name of a band from Virginia called the Divots. Even the premier bands of the Carolinas sang the praise of the Divots so we spent the time and presented much about the Divots in the book. “The Roanoker” magazine graciously granted us permission to reprint an article about the band titled ”Roanoke’s Greatest Band Ever” by John Pugh. What a great read.

“July 19643. The Rolling Stones’ first tour of America. The music world is astonished as the Stones sell out 60,000 seat Shea Stadium. “An entire stadium sold out for one show!” the press blares. “Never in the history of live performances has anything like this ever happened.”

Never in New York, perhaps. Never such a humongous crowd. But flashback almost a year earlier. October 1963. Homecoming, University of Georgia, Athens Gee-Ay. A nine-act rhythm-and-blues bill sells out 40,000 seat Sanford Stadium. It features Major Lance, Jerry Butler, Don Covay & The Goodtimers, Irma Thomas, Darlene Love. Mary Wells, King Curtis, Gene Chandler, and Don Gardner/Dee Dee Ford . And backing the whole show is a bunch of white boys from Roanoke, Vee-Ay who could play rhythm-and-blues music with such feeling and drive that at one time or another they backed every major R&B act that toured the South in the 60s. A group that attained almost legendary status among its followers. A group called the Divots.

The Divots influenced many bands and among them, The In_Men Ltd. who first played at UGA in 1966 for Chi Omega and were then kidnapped by the Kappa Alpha Order for their front lawn parties. Unfortunately, the Divots never recorded but the In-Men Ltd. did record. In fact a 20-minute medley from 1968 appears on the recent release The In-Men Ltd. Legacy Sessions along with 14 additional recordings made in 2006 including the No. 1 Beach Music song of 2007, "Rhythm" The CD available at www.abebooks  In-Men Ltd. Legacy Sessions published by Rare Reads

The upcoming concert featuring Jason Aldean will be a winner, deservedly so, but the honor of being the first concert at Sanford Stadium belongs to a group R&B greats.

If you were one of the 40,000 that attended the concert, and you remember, send your comments. Many say that if you remember the 60s, you weren't there. That adage is not always true ?

 Also, it was the era  you could take photos without trepidation or getting signed releases so if got a few poloroids, stuck in a drawer, e-mail them, we’ll post. 

NEW From the publisher of “The Heeey Baby Days of Beach Music”

January 17, 2013

We are pleased to announce the release of the “Legacy Sessions” of the In-Men Ltd., a show and dance band based in Burlington, North Carolina in the latter part of the 60s. The band enjoyed immense popularity and were often chosen to back major R&B  acts that came to perform at popular venues of the era such as Myrtle Beach’s, “Beach Club”, Greensboro’s “The Castaways” and colleges throughout the South.  Their story is detailed in a 20-page booklet that accompanies the 15- cut CD.  Many of the In-Men were students at Elon College, which is now Elon University. In 2006, members of the band had a reunion and as a result of the reunion, the urge to record ignited several sessions at Charlotte’s StudioEast resulting in updated versions of classics from the 1960s to the 2000s. A few of the cuts were previously released including “Rhythm” . The song was No. 1 on the Beach Music chart from March of 2007 for 17 months, which is not too bad for a band that got back together to reminisce. Of note, “Rhythm” written by Curtis Mayfield of The Impressions and was originally recorded by Major Lance with the Impressions providing background vocals. “Rhythm” as recorded by the In-Men Ltd. features Geoff Smith on lead vocals and yes! those same Impressions sans Mayfield providing background vocals.

Although the In-Men Ltd.  no longer tour, their legacy remains strong and the sound that so many enjoyed remains alive through the “Legacy Sessions.” If you remember the great horn sound of the In-Men Ltd., and the equally strong vocals, this musical experience is for you!

 To Order The Legacy Sessions The In-Men Ltd. CD

send  $20.00 Check to Rare Reads 203 Townsend Place, Atlanta, Georgis 30327 or PayPal Rarereads@bellsouth.net or use credit card and receive CD by priority mail: Click on link to purchase by credit card through ABE

http://www.abebooks.com/servlet/BookDetailsPL?bi=9399959243&searchurl=bi%3D0%26bx%3Doff%26ds%3D30%26recentlyadded%3Dall%26sortby%3D17%26sts%3Dt%26tn%3DLegacy%2BSessions%26x%3D62%26y%3D8

Original Villagers, Master Sound was located on Fernwood Circle, K-Otics Classics IV, New Hey Baby Days CD coming soon

Need to post more as we continually get interesting emails even though the book was published over five years ago . Sorry that the books are all gone... BUT we are considering making the book available as an E Book ... let us know what you think.

For a look at the Entire Original Villagers From Union, SC, Click on the following link

http://heybabydays.com/photos_179.htm



The 'Original' Villagers - Union S.C.
L-R (Back): Larry Carver, Tommy Henderson,
Wayne Reed, Larry Williams, Melvin Sinclair,
Curt Bradford, Jimmy Kirby & Jim Woods.
(On Ground): Ken Sparks & Kenny Royster

The Original Villagers group is already listed on your internet site, but I wanted to send some updated information about the group. In 2010 we got back together for only the 2nd time in 40 yrs and performed at the Party in the Pines Festival in Whitmire, SC and then again in Oct 2010 at the Oktober Fest in Newberry, SC. Now we are looking at the possibilites of going into a studio.

I have attached some photos of the events plus a couple old pics I came across in case you are interested. The 1st photo is a group shot at the Party in Pines, 2nd shot a stage shot there. The 3rd shot is Newberry in Oct and the last two are 1967 shots. Appreciate the site and the book and the history with it. Still look at it quite regularly. Will you ever release another cd? If so, would like to add some music. If you have time you can visit our site at:

http://www.youtube.com/user/purtylucky/feed

and listen to "It's Alright" and other songs recorded live and in studio back in the 60's. Have a good day, and again,

Thank You,

Ken Sparks, Agent

Cel. 864.981.3559

Em. km_sparks@hotmail.com

From: Rarereads

To: Ken Sparks

Sent: Friday, March 30, 2012 6:05 PM

Subject: Re: Pictures

I finally figured it out and hope to post tomorrow by the way there were at least two Villager bands from SC Charleston, Sumter, ?

Thanks

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 29, 2012, at 7:05 PM, Ken Sparks <kenn.sparks@yahoo.com> wrote:

We were aware of other Villager groups around and that's why we changed our names to Original Villagers way back in the sixties. We had already built ourselves to much of a following to change the entire name. We played mostly in Georgia, Florida and Alabama, more than we did in South Carolina. Thanks for posting.

Ken

Ken:

There is not question in my mind that the Original Villagers as listed in the Hey Baby Days directory was a great band back in the day and the fact that they are back together and looking to record is great. Visit their site below by clicking on the link and enjoy. Of course we need to mention that there were other great bands back in the day that were called the Villagers including at least two other Villager bands from South Carolina. (Sumter and Charleston) and from what I’ve heard , they were all great bands. You have to figure from looking at the photos above that the Villagers had a great horn section .

And don’t forget Cliff Ellis’s band of Villagers from Marianna, Florida which had a regional hit with their cover of the Tams’ “Laugh It Off” How many other bands used the name Villagers back in the Hey Baby Days ?

But you need to click on the YouTube above for the Union South Carolina Villagers. They are truly a band from the Hey Baby Days

MASTER SOUND Atlanta, Georgia

On Mar 30, 2012, at 11:17 AM, Larry Watts wrote:


Hello, Greg.

I've lived in Atlanta for over 20 years but just recently stumbled upon the old address of Master Sound, home of all those Classics IV tracks and some of the Tommy Roe that, as a child, I grew to love from the 8-Track tapes my parents constantly played. I go back that area every day and stopped by yesterday. I realize that street addresses change as neighborhoods grow so I started searching on the net for any pictures of the old location but didn't find one. With that in mind, I turn to you to ask if the studio was situated across the street from the parking lot entrance of Brookhaven Marta, on the corner of Apple Valley Road and Fernwood Circle, in the spot that is now condos or apartments.

Thank you for your time and for your interesting blog.

Regards.

Larry Watts



Larry

The studio was located in what had been an elementary school that had been closed and purchased by Bob Richardson and or Bill Lowery. I am not sure about the actual ownership but it was acquired for the Marta station not sure exactly it's location on the Marta property but the address was Fernwood Circle. I visited Ric Cartey and Cotton Carrier a couple of times and my most vivid or possibly blurred memories include seeing a white haired man leaning over the boards in the studio ( Bill Lowery) , a door that had had a glass panel upon which Buie-Cochran was written, a former classroom with a single desk (Ric Cartey's) behind which a gold record was mounted on the wall (Young Love) and Ric's secretary Millie. I only visited a couple of times so I could be mistaken so I will forward to Butch Lowery and Buddy Buie and perhaps get some additional facts.

What would be really interesting is to get a list of all the great music created in that building... Just think of the artists and performers that hung out Master Sound: The Tams, Swingin Medallions, Classics IV, James Gang, Candymen, Billy Joe Royal, Tommy Roe, Roemans, Ray Stevens, Joe South, Ray Whitley, Emory Gordy Jr to mention a few.

Regards

Greg







From: "kimvenable@earthlink.net"
To: greg heybabydays
Sent: Wed, March 28, 2012 10:37:55 PM
Subject: Kim Venable - drummer for
K-otics and Classics IV



Hi Greg,

Hope things are going well with you. I enjoy having your great book on my coffee table every day.

I am putting together a portfolio for my daughter and granddaughter. I noticed some pictures of myself on your web site of when I attended the HBD book debut and signing at the Georgia Music Hall of Fame & Museum in Macon. I would greatly appreciate copies of the photos that I am in. I saw 3 on the web site but, if you have additional ones, I would be interested in them also. I have grey hair and I'm wearing a black leather vest. I stand out well in the photos.

Please let me know how I can get copies them. If they can be sent by email, it would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks, Kim Venable


Drummer for the K-otics and the Classics IV


Sent from my iPhone

Kim:

Be happy to help, I remember chatting with you and reminising about the good old days. Glad that your sharing all this with your children, otherwise, they may never know how truly great those days were ... when virtually every national guard armory and teen club had a group of future rock 'n roll stars playing every Saturday night.

Regards


Greg





On Mar 24, 2012, at 3:48 PM, alohabyana@aol.com wrote:


Hi Gregg,


I've been catching up on the posts on your blog. Looks like you had a great time in my hometown, Dothan at the Music Fest in 2010. I have wonderful memories of dancing to those Dothan bands, the Webs and the James Gang at our high school dances.

Recently, while watching a special on Pop, Rock, and Soul on PBS, I got an idea. I wondered if the guy responsible for the wonderful specials on PBS would be interested in doing a show on Beach Music. I did some research and found that this guy is T. J. Lubinsky, the executive producer for many wonderful specials on music from the 1950's and '60's on PBS, which I am sure you have seen. He is a Pittsburgh radio host. I am going to write him a letter. If I can get him interested, do you have an extra book that you could send him? I know it's a long shot, but I know it would be a very interesting show.

Are you working on a follow up book to "Heeey Baby Days of Beach Music" and are there any additional CD's in the works? I am enjoying my 17 CD's very much!

Aloha,
Ann Adams




-----Original Message-----
From: Rarereads
To: alohabyana
Cc: greg
Sent: Sat, Mar 24, 2012 12:02 pm
Subject: Re:

Ann

Thanks

I had a great time in Dothan. It was truly one of the highlights of all the events I have been fortunate to have participated in since the book was published. To be backstage and talk with those great songwriters was a thrill. Hearing co-composer J.R. Cobb do his version of "Be Young Be Foolish Be Happy" reminded me of that night back in 1970 when Ray Whitley sat in the living room of the Phi Delt house at UGA and did his rendition of that same song he cowrote with Cobb.

I actually working on a couple of projects one of which I will announce on the blog with the posting of this email.

Within the next couple of months we plan to release the cuts made by the In-Men ltd. during a reunion in 2006. These cuts are extraordinary and should have wide body appeal. The CD will include the 1968 medley that was edited from a body of music the band recorded for Curtis Mayfield in 1968 with the vocals of Mickey Combs and Freddy Owens. If you have not heard it go to YouTube and search for In-Men Ltd Medley

In addition to the medley are the cuts made in 2006 in Charlotte which features the vocals of Geoff Smith, son of keyboardist Moose Smith. In addition there is a wonderful cover of "At Last" by Geoff's sister Suzanne . Etta would be proud. Other lead vocals include Skip Hinshaw a former lead singer of both the In-Men and the Monzas with a riveting version of "I'm losing You" There are two cuts featuring the great Eddie Middleton whose resume includes King David & the Slaves (With Randall Bramblett) R.C. & the Moonpies (with Mickey Thomas) and the award winning Christian group
NewSong. Moose Smith's "High Heel Sneakers" winds up the CD. A full listing of the tracks is forthcoming

I don't think you anticipated such a lengthy reply but it was an opportunity
to post some news

Regards

Greg


Sent from my iPhone




Greg,


WOW! Thanks for such a quick response.

I'm really excited about your new projects. I saw that post about the music that was discovered that the band recorded for Curtis Mayfield and made a note to check it out on YouTube but haven't yet. Can't wait for the CD you're working on.

We were so lucky to grow up in such a special era because they just don't make music like that any more!

Hopefully, I can get the executive producer of those PBS shows, T. J. Lubinsky interested in doing a show on Beach Music. Do you have an extra book to send him if I can get him interested? Please let me know

Please keep me posted. I listen to Beach Music every day. When I jog, I listen to the Heeey Baby Days of Beach Music CD's and when I am home I listen to www.949thesurf.com. If you haven't checked this Myrtle Beach station out, you should. You are probably already familiar with it.

Again, I'm so excited about your projects with Beach Music, my favorite!

Aloha,
Ann

The In-Men Ltd. Live from The Hey Baby Days 1968

If at first you don’t succeed, try, try again but if you try, try again and still don’t succeed, HIRE A PROFESSIONAL

which is finally what I did after explaining my dilemma to Gregg Burkhalter the designer of http://www.heybabydays.com/

I wanted to put a 21 minute medley made in 1968 by the In-Men Ltd. but couldn’t connects all the dots… aka the wma file extension with the photos etc. Some of my early tries are on the blog but it’s hard to download and cuts off the last 5 minutes of the medley. Now, life is easier thanks to Gregg who directed me to Ted Tatman of Charleston, SC. Ted did a masterful job of putting photos of the band with the music so that now after over 40 years, the world can appreciate the sounds of the great show band that hailed from Burlington, NC.

Enjoy



Click on the link below and enjoy the show



www.youtube.com/watch?v=2afiWxKyFXA

Please Look Back: From the Hey Baby Days, the unofficial release of the In-Men Ltd.’s live demo made for Curtis Mayfield (1968)

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Get Ready to party ( for 20 minutes) Read the post and then click on title above and download the party with the In-Men Ltd.

In the late summer of 1969, the In-Men Ltd. of Burlington, North Carolina appeared in the Waycross City Auditorium for a show of which I was the promoter. In the image above the In-Men Ltd. are the tuxedo-clad musicians. It’s pretty easy to figure out who the other two sets of performers are by noting the Tam o' Shanters and the madras pants.

Rachel Settle a Waycross Georgia based artist did a wonderful depicting my memories of these performers as they appeared on that stage and her work has become the logo of the Hey Baby Days as used on the dust jacket and the web site. Unfortunately, the In-Men Ltd. show & dance (as we called them back then ) did not go real well from the box office perspective. You could have rolled a bowling ball down the center of the dance floor without even coming close to hitting anyone. My excuses for the bomb are detailed in an entire chapter in The Heeey Baby Days of Beach Music called “Down in the Alley with the In-Men Ltd.” After one set, the band and I decided to turn the lights out and go bowling. This is just too bizarre to make up.


However, that one set of music offered by the In-Men Ltd. that night in Waycross, Georgia in 1969 made an impression that has lasted a lifetime… one that rates right up there with the night I first saw the Swingin’ Medallions at the Jacksonville Beach auditorium. These bands were all about horns and show!

Certainly the financial impact of a failed show wasn’t good for anyone, me, my creditors, the band , etc It also disturbed me that a great band with a ton of horns came to town and just a handful of people saw them . But today, we are changing all that thanks to Dr. Sonny Long of the In-Men Ltd. who has permitted me to share with you what you may have missed back then.

During the research phase for the Heeey Baby Days of Beach Music, I met a gentleman from Burlington North Carolina that had in his possession a demo tape that the In-Men Ltd. had produced for Curtis Mayfield who was apparently considering them for his Curtom label. Why wouldn't he? The In-Men Ltd. sounded like the Impressions as well as the Temptations . In fact the Temptations once asked them not to do any of their songs when they were on the same show. It was a compliment well earned !

The demo that you will be listening to was made on the spot in one take in the Copeland Studios in Greensboro, North Carolina . When Alan Brantley first played it for me back before the book was published, I told him that it sounded just like what I had heard back in 1969 in a lonely Waycross City Auditorium. One of the song clips in the medley is the In-Men Ltd.s cover of the Artistics, ”I’m Going To Miss You”. It was a must for the book’s companion CDs . Not many bands do this song, they don’t have a Mickey Combs who could hit the required high notes. When listening, make sure your crystal is safely stored.

When you hear the clip of "The Letter" it should stun. It was #1 for The Box Tops so it's hard to think anyone besides the Box Tops or Joe Cocker could make any substantial improvements on what we all agree were masters. May I submit another master version of "The Letter," one of the zillion songs written by Wayne Carson.

Thanks to Alan Brantley for his preservation effort .

Thanks for Sonny Long for allowing me to present this medley of music from the Hey Baby Days on the Hey Baby Days blog

Thanks to Tim Eaton for his editing, restoration and production.

Most of all thanks to the In-Men Ltd. who made this remarkable recording.

Before you click and listen, please read the following:

This is a 20 minute recording, once you click, prepare to listen to all of it and get in the mood of the Hey Baby Days, visualize the tuxedo- clad musicians you see in the image above sharing the stage with the Tams and Swingin’ Medallions. After all, they all shared the stage at “The Party To End all Parties” If you happened to have been a member of Kappa Alpha at UGA in the mid 60s, you don't have to visualize, you know what I'm talking about.

Members of The In-Men Ltd. through the years can be found at http://www.heybabydays.com/In_Men_Ltd.pdf

The In-Men Ltd of Burlington , North Carolina premier show band during the Hey Baby Days of Beach Music

Pictured in the photo above: ( This line-up of the In-Men Ltd. recorded the medley and also appeared in Waycross in the summer of 1969)

Back Row l-r Mickey Combs, Sonny Long, Tommy Rogers, Howard Eaton, and Moose Smith
Middle Row: Tommy Burgess and Garth Hutson
Front: Freddy Owens




More photos of the In-Men Ltd. are available at several locations at the site


Now Ladies and Gentlemen “Please Look Back” at one the great show bands of the Hey Baby Days, The In-Men Ltd.

Click the post title and download the sound of the Heeey Baby Days of Beach Music starring The In-Men Ltd.

More Music From The Hey Baby Days of Beach Music featuring Dan Greer, Mayer Hawthorne, Kurt Harris, Motherlode, Pieces of Eight & Hourglass

Here's a collection of names you rarely see grouped together in a Beach Music posting: Dan Greer, Mayer Hawthorne, Kurt Harris, Motherlode, The Pieces of Eight and Hourglass ( Allmans) but read on and click on the links to music that you may or may not be that familiar with:

A 1970 creation that sounds like mid 60s ala Hey Baby Days

A 2011 release that has the classic Beach Music sound but is lyrically suspect

A Northern Soul classic that should have been on every UGA juke box in the 60s

Canada’s contribution to the Beach Music world Beach Music sound

It's only 5 Men-Its to the Hourglass

In 2010, I went to Jim Russell’s a fascinating record store on Magazine Street in New Orleans hoping to find some additions to my collection. You don’t have to download everything…they still make turntables. I especially like the retro turntables that enable you to make digital files so you can download on to your IPOD so you can maintain the file so that when you lose your IPOD which I frequently do, you’ll have a backup. After having such an exotic piece of equipment for two years unused, my son, the musician, finally showed me how to use it.. he said I needed to download some software… what Audacity he has… but I did find the right free Audacity software so now I’m in business, maybe

After giving the store owner an idea of what I was looking for I was directed to a 45 RPM by Willie Tee that I did not have, “The Man That I Am ” on the Gatur label. It’s great soulful ballad by the Beach Music icon. I had never heard this Willie Tee song but found it to be a great soulful ballad. The shopkeeper suggested that I might like another record as well so I bought it without hearing a note, glad I did. So I bought I bought “Curiosity Killed the Cat” by Dan Greer. I noticed that on the label it had the production company listed as Waycross Music. Now Waycross, Georgia is my hometown but I don’t remember a cat by the name of Dan Greer, curious or otherwise, but I liked his song and his voice. This cut sounded like it might have been recorded during the height of the hey baby days maybe around 1967 but it was apparently recorded just outside the HB zone in 1970. It has the two essential qualifiers for my taste: uptempo and horns.
Check a snippet of it out from a clip I found on line. Click on arrow to activate sound and be sure to read the comments associated with the link. CAUTION: a very scratchy start: ( copy and paste the following link in your browser as I have not yet mastered the art of making it easy to click and listen)

http://shotrecords.shop-pro.jp/?pid=22305918

A new beach Music sounding record getting huge national exposure.

Not sure Mayer Hawthorne has ever heard the term ”Beach Music” and if so, he may think Beach Boys. Some pundits think he has created a new Motown classic but “not so” says my son, the professional musician. Wise, before his time at 32, he said that he has heard people refer to “The Walk” as new Motown. He says “they just don’t know the difference between the classic sound of Motown and the classic sound of Beach Music. I agree with him that the “The Walk” by Mayer Hawthorne has the classic sound of Beach Music however the great lyricists of both genres were a bit more discrete with their wording. The subtle difference between Motown and Beach Music is a little vague for the commoner. lol

We offer two versions of “The Walk” found on line. If the first one is a little too violent, switch to the next one which is one of the band's live television appearances.

If this link is a bit much for you, try the next one . ( copy and paste the links in your browser)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmfcYli6vV4



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSs33-gG_Rs&feature=endscreen&NR=1


The Emperor of My Baby’s Heart recorded by Kurt Harris in 1964 and in recent years covered by Paul Craver of Beach Music fame was a Northern Soul classic that would have been on any juke box at UGA had we known about it… or maybe we were not paying attention. Check it out …


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnqUfGXKRPA&feature=related


Researching a bit, it appears that Kurt Harris may have had origins in the coastal Georgia counties Macintosh and Glynn counties. When we find out more, maybe he too will be added to the honor roll of great R&B ers from South Georgia that includes many …Jesse Boone, Ray Charles, Little Richard, etc. JB hails from north of the gnat line!

O Canada


Just at the very end of the Heeey Baby Days of Beach music in 1969, a song appeared in American Top 40 that again has the great sound of Beach Music. I am not sure I first heard the original version on the radio or at a Beach Music revival as performed by the original Bits& Pieces which were formerly the Original Second Pieces of Eight. It does not matter though, they were great in any form and are still out there today doing both, “Lonely Drifter” and “When I Die” as the original Second Pieces of Eight. Here’s the original ‘When I Die” by Canada’s Motherlode, some of whom were friends of my friend Peter Whatmore of London Ontario. I was not able to find the Pieces of Eight’s version of “When I Die” on Youtube but their cover is a great one ! Melodic as Bamie would say !


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWdETlWIzvU

O Canada !

It's Only 5 Men-its to the Hourglass

Finally, a cut that appeared on a 1968 Hourglass album that has a great Beach Music sound ... You wouldn't suspect after listening to this cut that a couple of years after Hourglass made this recording for Liberty records, they would become synonymous with Southern Rock as the Allman Brothers. But before all of that happened , two sets of good old boys from Alabama and Florida ( the Five Men-its and the Allman Joys) got together as Hourglass and created a little soul music !

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpTquoCGsrc


Like any of the selections above ? yes, no, maybe , I'll get back with you, or "if I had a dime, I'd play the jukebox."

Heeey Baby Days book signing at Barnes & Noble with Chuck Leavell…sort of

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We have sold out of the book but we're still having fun !






In spite of the fact that B&N sold more copies of the book than anyone , we have never had a book signing at one of their stores until today (December 19) and then only by happenstance.(We never had a book signing at an actual book store but sure enjoyed all the other signing events along the way from Albany, Georgia to Myrtle Beach to Manchester in the U.K.) Graciously, Chuck Leavell, a contributor to the book as well as to the world of music agreed to meet me and sign a couple of books at the BN store at the Shoppes at River Crossing in Macon not far from his pine tree farm. (The man has a lot of interests !)



B&N happens to be on the prominent corner as you ride into the high end Macon, Georgia shopping complex so it was convenient to meet at the Starbucks there for Chuck to sign two copies of the books. The store probably didn't have a clue that such a monumental event was taking place in Starbucks area of the store. We are calling this a "reverse book signing" where the author seeks the authographs of the subjects of a book. Thanks to Judy, a store customer, for snapping the photo of Chuck and me. My son, the percussionist, will be proud. I have two books I have been lugging around since the book was published in 2006. We have quite a few autographs in the two books already but to add Chuck's is special. After all, a story of his early band, the Misfitz is included in the book. I meant to ask Chuck if he could give me the titles of some of the tunes the band might have played back in the day. How many might have been on the Top 100 of the Hey Baby Days of Beach Music. Did he cover fellow Alabamians, Wilson Pickett or Percy Sledge ? Could there have been any bands back in the Hey Baby Days that didn't cover, "Mustang Sally"? There’s a great story about the making of “Mustang Sally in Peter Guralnick’s book

Sweet Soul Music: Rhythm and Blues and the Southern Dream of Freedom. ISBN 0-316-33273-9.

When Chuck’s not on tour, he’s growing pines trees, Georgia pines, i.e., the type that Alabamians Buddy Buie and John Rainey Atkins wrote their song about which was recorded by Wilbur Walton and the James Gang as well as the Candymen.



Chuck’s music career beginning with the Misfitz of Tuscaloosa has evolved through legendary musical aggregations including Sea-Level, the Allman Brothers, Eric Clapton, the Rolling Stones and now he's collaborating on a new album with John Mayer. You can read about the Chuck’s first band, the Misfitz in the book. Early influences included another Georgian, Ray Charles



According to Wikepedia , Leavell said his three favorite contributions to songs in his career were "Jessica" with The Allman Brothers Band, "Old Love" on Eric Clapton's Unplugged, and "Already Over Me" from the Rolling Stones' Bridges to Babylon record



Is “Jessica” not one of the greatest instrumentals of all-time ? The following piano instructional piece on YouTube leaves you wanting more:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qK84Q1C-JI



One of the books signed by Chuck and 200 plus performers from the Hey Baby Days will be auctioned off for a charitable cause later this year. Details will follow soon. A couple of years back, one of the two books was sold for $1,000 at a silent auction in Atlanta at the SIOR Leadership breakfast for the benefit of the Atlanta Study Hall and others. We expect that with many added signatures including Chuck’s, the book will go much higher and to a cause based upon reccommendations we receive from musicians in the book. I pledge not to buy this one ! (I was high bidder at silent auction mentioned above)


In the next few days,we’ll share the names of the signatures we have to date and will keep you informed of others added up until the time the book is auctioned.


My thanks to Chuck for his contributions and for going out of his way to sign the books.

Check out some of the worlds of Chuck Leavell:


http://www.chuckleavell.com/
http://www.charlane.com/


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It’s been so long since we have posted anything to the Hey Baby Days blog that we forgot the pass word. Hope we get this posted



The Soulful Seven of Saluda , South Carolina

From: "Cain, Brent"


To: "greg@heybabydays.com"
Sent: Fri, December 16, 2011 10:49:33 AM
Subject: Blog on HeyBabyDays - Soulful Seven
Greg,

I happened to be doing a search on a band I was a member of back in the late 60’s (The Soulful Seven from Saluda, SC). I came across a blog on your website from a gentleman named Jeff Simpson that was submitted back in 2009. He mentions one ofour gigs as the Soulful Seven being the opening band for Arthur Conley in Columbia, SC. I was only 13 at the time and played keyboards but I remember the gig well. We were invited by Arthur’s band to use their equipment. At the time, all I had was an ACE Tone combo organ. Authur’s keyboardist had a Hammond B3 with twin Leslie speaker cabinets.

I was in keyboard heaven! I had only dreamed of playing a B3/Leslie setup and there I was doing it in front of 1000s of people! Will never forget it!

I saw where Jeff was looking for some pictures. I did have one of Arthur and me but it is now lost or destroyed. Anyway, I can’t place Jeff and he claims he helped work the gig that night. Not sure if he was from Saluda or maybe a friend of one of the other band members. If you are in touch with him, let him know I’m curious to find out more. I’ve lost touch with the other band
members and would like to find out more about them as well. We did a reunion gig back in Saluda, I would guess in the early 90s and was able to see most.

If you’re interested, here's a list of t e original band members that created the initial Soulful Seven:


Jimmy Bedenbaugh –Drummer
Brent Cain – Keyboards
Billy Corley – Singer
Jim Floyd – Lead Guitarist
Wayne Horn – Singer
Gerald Cromer – Bass
Gene Padgett – Rhythm Guitar

As time we one, we added a horn section and shifted some responsibilities around but still kept the Soulful Seven name. We did try changing the name (can’t recall to what) but it never caught on like the Soulful Seven.

Feel free to put this
on your blog if you choose.

Take Care,
Brent


Brent:

We are always interested in hearing about "soul" bands of the 60s; especially those that had "soul" in their band names as well as in their music. The "soul" sort of disappeared from band names as The Heeey Baby Days made its exit at the end of the 60s.

Arthur Conley lived in the same apartment complex I lived in when I first moved to Atlanta in the early 70s, Nob Hill was also home to Billy Joe Royal at one time. I'll post this and maybe we'll get some feedback from Jeff et. al. Thanks for your email.

regards,


Greg Haynes




Suggestion for a great read:

“Dirtdobber’s Blues” by Cyril Vetter, another contributor to the book and a chief LSU Tiger supporter.


info@dirdobbersblues.com


Nora and I both read the book give it our strongest recommendation…

If you would like the Hey Baby Days blog to come out of hibernation, let us hear from you.